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Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Mr. Seth Anderson
I am about ready to upgrade my main Mac (a MacPro) to Mavericks. I haven't heard many squawks about applications that no longer work - is that not a particular problem this iteration of OS X?

Is there a list somewhere of (anecdotal) reports re: apps that have trouble with Mavericks? So far the only two I've encountered discussion about is TextExpander, which I don't use, and that Gmail and Apple Mail are not playing nicely with each other - and I don't care about that either.

What is the collective experience of the bleeding edge contingent of Tidbits?


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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Al Varnell
On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Mr. Seth Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I am about ready to upgrade my main Mac (a MacPro) to Mavericks. I haven't heard many squawks about applications that no longer work - is that not a particular problem this iteration of OS X?

I don't think it will be as big a problem this time since Developers had a long lead time and there weren't a lot of last minute "gotchas".

Most of what I'm reading now is some disappointment in the newly free applications from iLife and iWorks and Aperture that have lost some minor functionality.  If you choose to upgrade any of these apps, be sure you can reinstall or recover the old apps if you aren't happy with the new ones.

> Is there a list somewhere of (anecdotal) reports re: apps that have trouble with Mavericks? So far the only two I've encountered discussion about is TextExpander, which I don't use, and that Gmail and Apple Mail are not playing nicely with each other - and I don't care about that either.

RoaringApps is still cranking up on this, but reports are starting to roll in <http://roaringapps.com/>.


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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Alexander Forbes
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The only app of mine affected was a utility called Flip4Mac, which I believe allowed viewing .wmv movies, which is a pretty good indication of how much I’ll miss it. The installer disabled the utility and placed it in a new folder called Incompatible Software.

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Is there a list somewhere of (anecdotal) reports re: apps that have trouble with Mavericks? So far the only two I've encountered discussion about is TextExpander, which I don't use, and that Gmail and Apple Mail are not playing nicely with each other - and I don't care about that either.



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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Thomas Rohde
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On 2013-10-25 at 00:45, Mr. Seth Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> [..] apps that have trouble with Mavericks? So far the only two I've encountered discussion about is TextExpander, which I don't use, and that Gmail and Apple Mail are not playing nicely with each other - and I don't care about that either.

According to Smile Software TextExpander 4.1.1 should work with Mavericks (is there an acronym for 10.9 like there was for ML and others? Otherwise I’d suggest “Mx”).

http://smilesoftware.com/blog/entry/textexpander-and-mavericks


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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Al Varnell
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Alexander Forbes <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> The only app of mine affected was a utility called Flip4Mac, which I believe allowed viewing .wmv movies, which is a pretty good indication of how much I’ll miss it. The installer disabled the utility and placed it in a new folder called Incompatible Software.

I'm not sure it needed to move it.  This was posted yesterday on the RoaringApps site:

> Telestream • a day ago
>
> Flip4Mac v3.2.0 is compatible with OS X 10.9 Mavericks. Flip Player should be updated to v3.2.1, which is compatible with Mavericks. The reason why Flip Player has a higher version is because it contains a major fix for 10.9 but Flip4Mac v3.2.0 will continue to work.
>
> Telestream is working with Microsoft to release Flip4Mac v3.2.1.

For some reason I was switched to Flip Player at some point.


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OSX Release Names vs. Numbers

Nello Lucchesi
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> On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Thomas Rohde <[hidden email]> wrote:
> … (is there an acronym for 10.9 like there was for ML and others? Otherwise I’d suggest “Mx”).

How about calling it 10.9?


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Re: OSX Release Names vs. Numbers

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> How about calling it 10.9?


How about X.IX?

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Re: OSX Release Names vs. Numbers

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On 24 Oct 2013, at 18:46 , Dr Digby L. James <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> How about calling it 10.9?
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> How about X.IX?

Or X9?

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Re: OSX Release Names vs. Numbers

Jack Rodgers
Of Course the literate would recognize that OS X is really OS 10 but Oh SX
is more intriguing.

Is the naming of the OS version and the use of a graphic necessary to sell
Macs? Has anyone ever bought a Mac because the OS was named after a cat?
What's wrong with dogs or bears or hyenas?

OS Ursa, OS Jackel, OS Snail, OS Stingray, OS Assasin, OS Texas Holderm

OK, I've been using a Mac since the Plus and OS 4  so I am comfortable with
numbers.


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Re: OSX Release Names vs. Numbers

Andy J. W. Affleck-3
So, I've been using since 1.0... can we retro-name the old systems? I vote
for OS I being called "Kitten"

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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Roger D. Parish
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Mail.app and Gmail don't get along AT ALL! I'm waiting for that to be fixed.

On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:45 PM, "Mr. Seth Anderson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I am about ready to upgrade my main Mac (a MacPro) to Mavericks. I haven't heard many squawks about applications that no longer work - is that not a particular problem this iteration of OS X?
>
> Is there a list somewhere of (anecdotal) reports re: apps that have trouble with Mavericks? So far the only two I've encountered discussion about is TextExpander, which I don't use, and that Gmail and Apple Mail are not playing nicely with each other - and I don't care about that either.
>
> What is the collective experience of the bleeding edge contingent of Tidbits?
>
>
> -Seth Anderson
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> http://www.twitter.com/swanksalot
>
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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Michael Krzyzek
The one app I'm not sure is working is Super Duper. I've been using it for
multiple backups going on years. This morning, after upgrading last night,
I saw two popups about copying. I had the choice to deny or go to
Preferences. I did that and saw two "agents" but could not select them. Did
some digging and they seemed to be related to the two Super Duper tasks I
have setup. Checking their website it seems they don't have an update. On
the other hand it could be that I was infected by some form of malware and
it has nothing to do with the upgrade.


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Roger D. Parish <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Mail.app and Gmail don't get along AT ALL! I'm waiting for that to be
> fixed.
>
> On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:45 PM, "Mr. Seth Anderson" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I am about ready to upgrade my main Mac (a MacPro) to Mavericks. I
> haven't heard many squawks about applications that no longer work - is that
> not a particular problem this iteration of OS X?
> >
> > Is there a list somewhere of (anecdotal) reports re: apps that have
> trouble with Mavericks? So far the only two I've encountered discussion
> about is TextExpander, which I don't use, and that Gmail and Apple Mail are
> not playing nicely with each other - and I don't care about that either.
> >
> > What is the collective experience of the bleeding edge contingent of
> Tidbits?
> >
> >
> > -Seth Anderson
> >
> > often found at
> > http://www.twitter.com/swanksalot
> >
> >
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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Mr. Seth Anderson

On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Michael Krzyzek <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The one app I'm not sure is working is Super Duper. I've been using it for
> multiple backups going on years. This morning, after upgrading last night,
> I saw two popups about copying. I had the choice to deny or go to
> Preferences. I did that and saw two "agents" but could not select them. Did
> some digging and they seemed to be related to the two Super Duper tasks I
> have setup. Checking their website it seems they don't have an update. On
> the other hand it could be that I was infected by some form of malware and
> it has nothing to do with the upgrade.

I saw that too. Listed under System Preferences / Security & Privacy / Privacy (which on my machine has a “click the lock to make changes” restriction - i.e., only an Admin acct can alter it) - I have three applets, and Little Snitch Agent. At first I did not let these applets control my computer, but this morning I let them. I do wish these applets were more descriptive, as I’m not sure if they are from Hazel, or SuperDuper!, or something else entirely. If I had paid closer attention, I might have looked at Console while the permission window was open, but I did not.

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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Nicky Y. Schleider
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I use super duper and had no problem

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Michael Krzyzek <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The one app I'm not sure is working is Super Duper. I've been using it for
> multiple backups going on years. This morning, after upgrading last night,
> I saw two popups about copying. I had the choice to deny or go to
> Preferences. I did that and saw two "agents" but could not select them. Did
> some digging and they seemed to be related to the two Super Duper tasks I
> have setup. Checking their website it seems they don't have an update. On
> the other hand it could be that I was infected by some form of malware and
> it has nothing to do with the upgrade.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Roger D. Parish <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> Mail.app and Gmail don't get along AT ALL! I'm waiting for that to be
>> fixed.
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:45 PM, "Mr. Seth Anderson" <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am about ready to upgrade my main Mac (a MacPro) to Mavericks. I
>> haven't heard many squawks about applications that no longer work - is that
>> not a particular problem this iteration of OS X?
>>>
>>> Is there a list somewhere of (anecdotal) reports re: apps that have
>> trouble with Mavericks? So far the only two I've encountered discussion
>> about is TextExpander, which I don't use, and that Gmail and Apple Mail are
>> not playing nicely with each other - and I don't care about that either.
>>>
>>> What is the collective experience of the bleeding edge contingent of
>> Tidbits?
>>>
>>>
>>> -Seth Anderson
>>>
>>> often found at
>>> http://www.twitter.com/swanksalot
>>>
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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Rodney
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 18:35, Roger D. Parish <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Mail.app and Gmail don't get along AT ALL! I'm waiting for that to be fixed.

I had more of the opposite reaction.  I'd kept my Gmail fairly vanilla.  For example, I didn't follow the recommendation about not exporting "all mail".  After the upgrade, Gmail seems to be behaving better (for me) than previously.

I'm wondering if Gmail's problems might be because Apple changed Mail to handle Gmail more cleanly, and as a result the workarounds that everyone adopted previously are causing problems...




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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

Rodney
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I ran into a couple of minor configuration settings that got lost.

First, Address Book reset my default address format to US.  I'd previously set it to France, because most of the addresses I'm adding are here.  It didn't screw up any of my existing addresses.  I only noticed the change when I added a new address yesterday.

Second, I noticed that System Preferences -> Energy Saver -> Wake for Ethernet network access had been enabled.




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Re: Apps that don't work in Mavericks

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On 25 Oct 2013, at 11:19 , Rodney <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I'm wondering if Gmail's problems might be because Apple changed Mail to handle Gmail more cleanly, and as a result the workarounds that everyone adopted previously are causing problems...

Seems that way to me, but I have a very light gmail use.

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Re: OSX Release Names vs. Numbers

David Ross
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On 10/25/13 11:26 AM, Jack Rodgers wrote:
> Is the naming of the OS version and the use of a graphic necessary to sell
> Macs? Has anyone ever bought a Mac because the OS was named after a cat?

No but it does differentiate them from that other large SW company. :)


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Re: OSX Release Names vs. Numbers

Mark D. McKean
On Oct 26, 2013, at 8:43 am, David Ross <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> On 10/25/13 11:26 AM, Jack Rodgers wrote:
>> Is the naming of the OS version and the use of a graphic necessary to sell
>> Macs? Has anyone ever bought a Mac because the OS was named after a cat?
>
> No but it does differentiate them from that other large SW company. :)

That, and it makes it seem more casual and less technogeeky. People like cats--it makes it friendly. It's more accessible to the non-techies than some arcane alphanumeric gobbledygook or a made-up name that sounds like it was coined by a bored marketing department. You'll probably never, or at least rarely, hear someone outright state that they bought it because of the cat, but I'll bet that focus group research shows that the name has a subtle but measurable positive influence.

Personally, I think they should have eked one more feline out of the schema before changing. The numbering pattern will likely change for the next major revision anyway (will it be 10.10? 11.0?), so that would be a logical time to change the naming pattern as well.

Sure, they've run out of most of the obvious cats, but there are a number of distinctive species still unused. We could've had OS X 10.9 Cougar (the most obvious still-unused name[1]), Lynx, Bobcat, Wildcat, Ocelot, Caracal, Jaguarundi (which would have been a great name to use for a tweak to Jaguar, similar to Leopard/Snow Leopard or Lion/Mountain Lion), or Serval (which could have given us the euphonious designation of OS X 10.9 Serval Server). Or they could have bowed to Internet reality and delivered OS X 10.9 Lolcat. :-)

[1] Technically, a cougar is the same species as a puma or a mountain lion, but since Apple has already used both Puma (10.1) and Mountain Lion (10.8), Cougar wouldn't be breaking any new redundancy ground.

Mark D. McKean
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Re: OSX Release Names vs. Numbers

Nello Lucchesi

> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, "Mark D. McKean" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> That, and it makes it seem more casual and less technogeeky. People like cats--it makes it friendly. It's more accessible to the non-techies than some arcane alphanumeric gobbledygook or a made-up name that sounds like it was coined by a bored marketing department.

Yes, the cat names are charismatic.

Unfortunately, it's hard for some of us to remember the cats ordinal progression.

When I'm researching an issue I do my searches using 'OSX 10.x' instead of the cat name.  So I always have to refresh my memory regarding the version number for each cat.

Fortunately, 'About this Mac … ' provides the version number so people asking me support questions can tell what I need to know in order to help them.

Kudos to all who remember the cats->version relation without hesitation.


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