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How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Jerome King-2
I have a very strange problem in my primary computer / primary User Account with Siri as to who it "thinks" I am
       
When I installed macOS Sierra I did enable Siri via System Preferences and did already have my vCard identified as ME / My Card.  That is what shows under any check in Contacts

However, for some unknown (to me) reason, Siri latched on to my wife's vCard as Me.  If I ask "Who Am I"? Siri responds with my wife's name and displayed her vCard and pronounces her name.

I deleted my wife's vCard but Siri doesn't change.  Still insists that "who am I" is my wife

This is a problem only in my primary User Account as far as I can tell

I suspect I have to do a lobotomy on Siri
        I tried  by going into ~Library / Preferences  and deleted the Siri.plist
        It did not make a difference even with a shut down / restart

       
My wife's vCard is not in my Contacts.  But it keeps showing up as "Who am I?"

I suspect Siri has "me" stored somewhere

Sorry for the long introduction but HOW do i get to meet Siri without her thinking I am my wife?

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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Ron Risley
> Sorry for the long introduction but HOW do i get to meet Siri without her thinking I am my wife?

It's been a while since I've used Siri, but my recollection is that if you say "Siri, please call me Loretta," she will comply.


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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Jerry King
Thanks. Tried that and Siri now Uses my name but shows the non-existent vCard data of my wife.


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>> Sorry for the long introduction but HOW do i get to meet Siri without her thinking I am my wife?
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Marc Zeedar-2

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Thanks. Tried that and Siri now Uses my name but shows the non-existent vCard data of my wife.

I think you need to go into Contacts, select the one that is yours, and choose the "Make This My Card" option from the Cards menu.

That tells the system who you are and Siri uses that as the "My Card" option at the top of the list.


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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Jerry King
Have done that.  Also deleted my wife's vCard.  But Siri still shows the gone vCard of hers.
So I'm convinced Siri stores that away somewhere.


Jerry


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>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Thanks. Tried that and Siri now Uses my name but shows the non-existent vCard data of my wife.
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> I think you need to go into Contacts, select the one that is yours, and choose the "Make This My Card" option from the Cards menu.
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> That tells the system who you are and Siri uses that as the "My Card" option at the top of the list.
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Ray Kloss
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> On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Zeedar Marc <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Thanks. Tried that and Siri now Uses my name but shows the non-existent vCard data of my wife.
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> I think you need to go into Contacts, select the one that is yours, and choose the "Make This My Card" option from the Cards menu.
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> That tells the system who you are and Siri uses that as the "My Card" option at the top of the list.

My wife and I share the address book under her mac and iphone, so how do I tell it who is who (it always thinks my wife is me). Is there a way she can identify a card that is her identity without changing mine?


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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

 Allen WATSON
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks. Tried that and Siri now Uses my name but shows the non-existent vCard data of my wife. 

Have you created a contact record for yourself, and identified it as “me” in Contacts? I would think that would alert Siri. 😎



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RE: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Allen Gainsford
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> Have done that.  Also deleted my wife's vCard.  But Siri still shows the gone vCard of hers.
> So I'm convinced Siri stores that away somewhere.

Might it help to set someone else to "me", and then change it back to yourself?

Cheers,
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

 Allen WATSON
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If you invoke Siri and tell her, “Send an email to my wife,” Siri will ask you to identify your wife in your contacts. That might do the trick. Although she will be “Ray’s wife” which isn’t the same as being “me”.
On Jan 17, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ray Kloss <[hidden email]> wrote:

. Is there a way she can identify a card that is her identity without changing mine?




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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Jerry King
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If you don't have 2 vCards I'd create a second one in your name and edit the other to remove your name.

Then make her card the Me Card


Jerry


> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:18 PM, Ray Kloss <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Zeedar Marc <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> Thanks. Tried that and Siri now Uses my name but shows the non-existent vCard data of my wife.
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>> I think you need to go into Contacts, select the one that is yours, and choose the "Make This My Card" option from the Cards menu.
>>
>> That tells the system who you are and Siri uses that as the "My Card" option at the top of the list.
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> My wife and I share the address book under her mac and iphone, so how do I tell it who is who (it always thinks my wife is me). Is there a way she can identify a card that is her identity without changing mine?
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Jerry King
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Done that. Doesn't change things


Jerry 


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On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks. Tried that and Siri now Uses my name but shows the non-existent vCard data of my wife. 

Have you created a contact record for yourself, and identified it as “me” in Contacts? I would think that would alert Siri. 😎


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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Jerry King
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Tried that. Siri didn't show the new ME as who am i


Jerry


On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Allen Gainsford <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> Have done that.  Also deleted my wife's vCard.  But Siri still shows the gone vCard of hers.
>> So I'm convinced Siri stores that away somewhere.
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> Might it help to set someone else to "me", and then change it back to yourself?
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> Cheers,
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

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On 17 Jan 2017, at 18:18, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Have done that.  Also deleted my wife's vCard.  But Siri still shows the gone vCard of hers.
> So I'm convinced Siri stores that away somewhere.

Did you look at the settings app for Siri?

There's a setting near the bottom for who you are.

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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Al Varnell
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There are several possibilities here, most dependent on what you and your wife share.

If you and your wife have any "Family" accounts, that could be the connection. If you share an e-mail address or phone numbers, that can cause it.

If your contacts are sync'd with other computers, iDevices, or iCloud that have different me designations, that will confuse things.

Take a look in ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/Sources/ (where ~ indicates your home folder) to see if you have multiple sources. Chances are only one of those is current, the others having come from a migration of sync with computer or device that no longer belongs to you.  

Figuring out which ones are current will be the tricky part.  Any that contain a "Configuration.plist" will give you clues on where it comes from (e.g. iCloud, LinkedIn, Google, Facebook).  Any that contain a "migration.log" probably came from an earlier version of the OS and merged to iCloud.  Any that don't have an Images folder are probably not in use.

My largest AddressBook-v22.abcddb-wal file was modified today, so that's probably the main source. Not sure what the other six sources are there for, but two are totally empty.

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On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 01:40 PM, Jerome King wrote:

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> I have a very strange problem in my primary computer / primary User Account with Siri as to who it "thinks" I am
>
> When I installed macOS Sierra I did enable Siri via System Preferences and did already have my vCard identified as ME / My Card.  That is what shows under any check in Contacts
>
> However, for some unknown (to me) reason, Siri latched on to my wife's vCard as Me.  If I ask "Who Am I"? Siri responds with my wife's name and displayed her vCard and pronounces her name.
>
> I deleted my wife's vCard but Siri doesn't change.  Still insists that "who am I" is my wife
>
> This is a problem only in my primary User Account as far as I can tell
>
> I suspect I have to do a lobotomy on Siri
> I tried  by going into ~Library / Preferences  and deleted the Siri.plist
> It did not make a difference even with a shut down / restart
>
>
> My wife's vCard is not in my Contacts.  But it keeps showing up as "Who am I?"
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> I suspect Siri has "me" stored somewhere
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> Sorry for the long introduction but HOW do i get to meet Siri without her thinking I am my wife?
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Jerome King-2
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This is on my iMac under Sierra.  There doesn't seem to be anything in System Preferences / Siri corresponding'

My Contacts shows my vCard as ME

Thanks anyway

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> On 17 Jan 2017, at 18:18, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Have done that.  Also deleted my wife's vCard.  But Siri still shows the gone vCard of hers.
>> So I'm convinced Siri stores that away somewhere.
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> Did you look at the settings app for Siri?
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

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On 2017-01-18 (04:49 MST), Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> This is on my iMac under Sierra.  There doesn't seem to be anything in System Preferences / Siri corresponding’

Sorry, I thought you were talking about iOS.

On your Mac are you singed in to iCloud?


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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

Jerome King-2
yes I am signed on to iCloud.  Siri functions except when I ask the "who am I" question and it gives me my wife's vcard display (no longer in contacts).  I was able to tell siri to call me Jerry and it responds but still displays the same vCArd

Jerry

> On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:58 PM, @lbutlr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> On 2017-01-18 (04:49 MST), Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> This is on my iMac under Sierra.  There doesn't seem to be anything in System Preferences / Siri corresponding’
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

John Burt
Edit your wife's vcard to your info?


On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
yes I am signed on to iCloud.  Siri functions except when I ask the "who am I" question and it gives me my wife's vcard display (no longer in contacts).  I was able to tell siri to call me Jerry and it responds but still displays the same vCArd

Jerry
> On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:58 PM, @lbutlr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> On 2017-01-18 (04:49 MST), Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

John Burt
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I would say edit your wife's vcard to your info but you said it was gone.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
yes I am signed on to iCloud.  Siri functions except when I ask the "who am I" question and it gives me my wife's vcard display (no longer in contacts).  I was able to tell siri to call me Jerry and it responds but still displays the same vCArd

Jerry
> On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:58 PM, @lbutlr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> This is on my iMac under Sierra.  There doesn't seem to be anything in System Preferences / Siri corresponding’
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> Sorry, I thought you were talking about iOS.
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> On your Mac are you singed in to iCloud?
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Re: How to do a lobotomy on Siri?

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On 2017-01-18 (12:45 MST), Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> es I am signed on to iCloud.  Siri functions except when I ask the "who am I" question and it gives me my wife's vcard display

Pick a different contact and set Contacts => Cards => Make this my Card. Quit contacts and ask Siri “who am I?” If it changed, then go back to contacts and select your card and “Make this my card”.

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