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Michael Hambly-2
I know it's a long shot but has anyone an idea of opening files from JAZZ a pre AppleWorks type program by Lotus?

thanks
Michael



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Re: JAZZ files from 1988

Dr Digby L. James
> I know it's a long shot but has anyone an idea of opening files from JAZZ a pre AppleWorks type program by Lotus?

I used to do a lot of data conversion between different disk formats and data formats. Jazz was something I came across only once. I don’t think that the DataViz products Conversions Plus (on a PC) or MacLink Pro would handle Jazz. But if I remember correctly (this was about 20 years ago) its word processor was a variant of the Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet format and I think I managed to extract data by opening the files in Excel, having changed the file extension to WK1.

Whether that was the way I did it, it’s a question of whether it would work with more recent versions of Excel (Excel 2011 doesn’t list 1-2-3 as an option).

If you are prepared to pay, you could try http://www.comgen.co.uk who I have always found helpful but (for my budget) pricey. I’m sure there will be others around the world.

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Re: JAZZ files from 1988

Alan Forkosh
You might sic Libre Office (https://www.libreoffice.org) on it (can’t hurt). I’ve been able to open all sorts of offbeat obsolete office formats with it.

Alan Forkosh                    Oakland, CA
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On Jan 3, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Dr Digby L. James <[hidden email]> wrote:

I know it's a long shot but has anyone an idea of opening files from JAZZ a pre AppleWorks type program by Lotus?

I used to do a lot of data conversion between different disk formats and data formats. Jazz was something I came across only once. I don’t think that the DataViz products Conversions Plus (on a PC) or MacLink Pro would handle Jazz. But if I remember correctly (this was about 20 years ago) its word processor was a variant of the Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet format and I think I managed to extract data by opening the files in Excel, having changed the file extension to WK1.

Whether that was the way I did it, it’s a question of whether it would work with more recent versions of Excel (Excel 2011 doesn’t list 1-2-3 as an option).

If you are prepared to pay, you could try http://www.comgen.co.uk who I have always found helpful but (for my budget) pricey. I’m sure there will be others around the world.

Dr Digby L. James
Quinta Press
www.quintapress.com
Meadow View
Weston Rhyn
Oswestry
Shropshire
England
SY10 7RN
Phone (44) (0)1691 778659
Mobile (44) (0)7970 678144





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Re: JAZZ files from 1988

Thomas Roberts
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Your best bet is probably to find a copy of the JAZZ program and then
run it in an emulator (Basillisk or Sheepshaver). I keep an install of
Sheepshaver/OS9 installed just for reading/converting old files.

I did a search for an abandonware version of the software and came up
empty. I can’t find a free download anywhere. It doesn’t seem like
it sold many copies, mostly due to the price ($600), and it apparently
has some onerous copy protection scheme as well. Dvorak has a good
summary of it for those unfamiliar with the app:
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/whatever-happened-to-lotus-jazz/

Surprisingly, there is a copy of it listed on eBay!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Jazz-for-Macintosh-512K-Computer-/162344657162?hash=item25cc7ee10a:g:QoEAAOSw8oFXydzs

It might be worth the $50 if you are able to read the floppy!


On 3 Jan 2017, at 18:43, Michael Hambly wrote:

> I know it's a long shot but has anyone an idea of opening files from
> JAZZ a
> pre AppleWorks type program by Lotus?
>
> thanks
> Michael
>
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Re: JAZZ files from 1988

Doug Hogg
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There is also a program called DocXConverter with a free trial. 
I use it to convert AppleWorks files.

As a kind of last resort, I open files with TextWrangler which is free.

:-)

Doug Hogg

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On Jan 3, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Alan Forkosh <[hidden email]> wrote:

You might sic Libre Office (https://www.libreoffice.org) on it (can’t hurt). I’ve been able to open all sorts of offbeat obsolete office formats with it.

Alan Forkosh                    Oakland, CA
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On Jan 3, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Dr Digby L. James <[hidden email]> wrote:

I know it's a long shot but has anyone an idea of opening files from JAZZ a pre AppleWorks type program by Lotus?

I used to do a lot of data conversion between different disk formats and data formats. Jazz was something I came across only once. I don’t think that the DataViz products Conversions Plus (on a PC) or MacLink Pro would handle Jazz. But if I remember correctly (this was about 20 years ago) its word processor was a variant of the Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet format and I think I managed to extract data by opening the files in Excel, having changed the file extension to WK1.

Whether that was the way I did it, it’s a question of whether it would work with more recent versions of Excel (Excel 2011 doesn’t list 1-2-3 as an option).

If you are prepared to pay, you could try http://www.comgen.co.uk who I have always found helpful but (for my budget) pricey. I’m sure there will be others around the world.

Dr Digby L. James
Quinta Press
www.quintapress.com
Meadow View
Weston Rhyn
Oswestry
Shropshire
England
SY10 7RN
Phone (44) (0)1691 778659
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Re: JAZZ files from 1988

Michael Hambly-2
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Thanks all, that was a great help. Libreoffice opened them and I can use BBEDIT to clean them up. 

Michael

On Wed 4 Jan 2017 at 03:37, gastropod <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 05:14 PM, Alan Forkosh wrote:



> You might sic Libre Office (https://www.libreoffice.org

> <https://www.libreoffice.org/>) on it (can’t hurt). I’ve been able to

> open all sorts of offbeat obsolete office formats with it.

>



I'll ditto the LibreOffice suggestion.  They don't explicitly open Jazz,

but they do open Lotus 1 2 3  (.wk1, .wk2 and .wk3) and Lotus Word Pro

(.lwp), so maybe one or another of those extensions will work

adequately.  LO doesn't list all supported read formats, so it's worth

trying any other possible extensions.



LibreOffice has another great feature--I use it occasionally to rescue

corrupt MS Office files that Office can't touch.  Just open up in LO,

then save it to something Office can open.  There are some Office

features it can't handle, but even a partial recovery is usually better

than starting over from scratch, or from an old backup.



--

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Re: JAZZ files from 1988

George Wade
Strictly as an endnote:  Jazz did help in the acceptance of the Mac in the Japanese market as for the year I was in Tokyo I made a database of MS dos machines for sale by Computerland in Jazz — using a select and and add to the report concept .  It was an AppleWorks / Claris like, multi-function software.  Simple Graphic Diagrams were included to help people visualise their resulting desk, with cable, layout.  I snuck a 'Created in JAZZ' in somewhere, too, of course.  Many people who were partially literate in Japanese found the Mac to be a hundred times easier to use than a 100% native machine; especially when the EG Software KK developed easy Japanese typing for Mac too.  That was in 1985/6.

(Thanks for the LibreOffice + hints)

George


On 4 Jan 2017, at 15:13, Michael Hambly wrote:

Thanks all, that was a great help. Libreoffice opened them and I can use BBEDIT to clean them up. 

Michael

On Wed 4 Jan 2017 at 03:37, gastropod <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 05:14 PM, Alan Forkosh wrote:



> You might sic Libre Office (https://www.libreoffice.org

> <https://www.libreoffice.org/>) on it (can’t hurt). I’ve been able to

> open all sorts of offbeat obsolete office formats with it.

>.......







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Re: JAZZ files from 1988

Michael Hambly-2
It's quite amazing that LibreOffice opens the files. Unfortunately with crap included but at least able to edit :)

Thanks all for the help 
Michael

On Thu 12 Jan 2017 at 15:49, George Wade <[hidden email]> wrote:
Strictly as an endnote:  Jazz did help in the acceptance of the Mac in the Japanese market as for the year I was in Tokyo I made a database of MS dos machines for sale by Computerland in Jazz — using a select and and add to the report concept .  It was an AppleWorks / Claris like, multi-function software.  Simple Graphic Diagrams were included to help people visualise their resulting desk, with cable, layout.  I snuck a 'Created in JAZZ' in somewhere, too, of course.  Many people who were partially literate in Japanese found the Mac to be a hundred times easier to use than a 100% native machine; especially when the EG Software KK developed easy Japanese typing for Mac too.  That was in 1985/6.

(Thanks for the LibreOffice + hints)

George


On 4 Jan 2017, at 15:13, Michael Hambly wrote:

Thanks all, that was a great help. Libreoffice opened them and I can use BBEDIT to clean them up. 

Michael
On Wed 4 Jan 2017 at 03:37, gastropod <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 05:14 PM, Alan Forkosh wrote:



> You might sic Libre Office (https://www.libreoffice.org

> <https://www.libreoffice.org/>) on it (can’t hurt). I’ve been able to

> open all sorts of offbeat obsolete office formats with it.

>.......








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Re: JAZZ files from 1988

George Wade
When faced with "Crap" to edit out there have been times when  'Selecting Crap;' Copy; Delete / 'Delete All;' has saved me from errors of observation and a lot of time.  But TidBITS readers probably know even craftier tacktics !
George

On 12 Jan 2017, at 11:00, Michael Hambly wrote:

It's quite amazing that LibreOffice opens the files. Unfortunately with crap included but at least able to edit :)

Thanks all for the help 
Michael

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Strictly as an endnote:  Jazz did help in the acceptance of the Mac in the Japanese market.....



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