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Modern HTML editor for Sierra

David Rich
I have more than 5000 active webpages (and growing) that I have developed in basic HTML (mostly PageSpinner) over the past 20 years. PageSpinner will not work in Sierra.

Is there another website editor, similar to PageSpinner, that I can use to edit webpages created in PageSpinner?

I am a 78 year old single parent caregiver for an adult Downs lady. I need a fairly simple learning curve.

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Re: Modern HTML editor for Sierra

Roger Henriques
I have never used Pagespinner, but I have been very satisfied with Espresso http://macrabbit.com/espresso/, which also incorporates CSSEdit3, a very good CSS editor. I am on El Capitan, so I’m not sure about Sierra compatibiliy, but it is still in active development, so is probably worth a try.

Of course, there is also the very powerful BBEdit, but that may have more features that you need.

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> Is there another website editor, similar to PageSpinner, that I can use to edit webpages created in PageSpinner?




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Re: Modern HTML editor for Sierra

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On 29 Mar 2017, at 14:17, Roger Henriques <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Of course, there is also the very powerful BBEdit, but that may have more features that you need.

One nice thing about BBEdit is you can disable a lot of the things you don't need (or hide them at least) since the menus are customizable.

It's what I use for HTML with the code in one window and the live preview in a window right next to it.


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Re: Modern HTML editor for Sierra

Richard Rettke
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On 29 Mar 2017, at 14:55, David Rich [hidden email] wrote:

I am a 78 year old single parent caregiver for an adult Downs lady. I need a fairly simple learning curve.

Hi David,

My wife for years used BBedit for this purpose. She figured out HTML (on her own) and I put BBedit on her computer and she figured it out and used it (until she recently passed away at 73) for maintaining a website. It is still my goto product for many things, including the tiny amount of HTML I need it for. BBedit has a plethora of features but you only need use the ones that fit your workflow. It is unobtrusive, in my opinion.

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Re: Modern HTML editor for Sierra

Tom Coradeschi-2
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Dave: What problem are you seeing with pagespinner? I just fired up the copy I have (haven’t actually used it in years) and it seems to work just fine under 10.12.3.

> On 29 Mar 2017, at 3:55 PM, David Rich <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I have more than 5000 active webpages (and growing) that I have developed in basic HTML (mostly PageSpinner) over the past 20 years. PageSpinner will not work in Sierra.
>
> Is there another website editor, similar to PageSpinner, that I can use to edit webpages created in PageSpinner?
>
> I am a 78 year old single parent caregiver for an adult Downs lady. I need a fairly simple learning curve.
>
> Dave R.
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Re: Modern HTML editor for Sierra

Doug Hogg
Pagespinner has issues with HTML 5.

I have switched to BBEdit. It has a "light" unregistered mode now, so I would try that if you need HTML 5. Otherwise, keep using Pagespinner until it won't run.

I have Coda but I prefer using Transmit for FTP with BBEdit (or Pagespinner for older web pages).

:-)

Doug Hogg

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Tom Coradeschi <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Dave: What problem are you seeing with pagespinner? I just fired up the copy I have (haven’t actually used it in years) and it seems to work just fine under 10.12.3.
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>> On 29 Mar 2017, at 3:55 PM, David Rich <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> I have more than 5000 active webpages (and growing) that I have developed in basic HTML (mostly PageSpinner) over the past 20 years. PageSpinner will not work in Sierra.
>>
>> Is there another website editor, similar to PageSpinner, that I can use to edit webpages created in PageSpinner?
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>> I am a 78 year old single parent caregiver for an adult Downs lady. I need a fairly simple learning curve.
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>>    Dave R.
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Re: Modern HTML editor for Sierra

Randy B. Singer
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On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:55 PM, David Rich wrote:

> Is there another website editor, similar to PageSpinner, that I can use to edit webpages created in PageSpinner?
>
> I am a 78 year old single parent caregiver for an adult Downs lady. I need a fairly simple learning curve.

I have a favorite recommendation.  

It's free (some extended features are only available if you pay for them, but none of them are terribly important), WYSIWYG (but there is a built-in text editor if you choose to work with the raw HTML, and it helps you by allowing you to add HTML commands with one click), easy to use (if you know how to use a word processor you will take to this program quickly), and full featured. It's great for beginners and experienced Web designers alike.

BlueGriffon (free)
http://bluegriffon.org/
It was just recently updated extensively.

Free video tutorial series:
(The tutorial does not use the Mac version of the program, but the program is virtually identical across platforms.)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC06B5890CFFF491C
Other free BlueGriffon tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bluegriffon+tutorials

BlueGriffon's user manual is commercial (not free), but it's not necessary if you view the above tutorial.

Now, here's the best thing about BlueGriffon...it can do something that very few other WYSIWYG Web site creation programs can do...it can import existing Web sites in HTML format. Why is that important? Because if you have previously been using a program that is basically a page layout program with an HTML converter on top of it you can only export your existing Web site in either a proprietary format that nothing else can open, or you can export your Web site in HTML format. So, using BlueGriffon you can migrate from any other Web site creation program.

Even better, you can suck down the raw HTML from any existing site on the Web using something like SiteSucker, and use it as a template/starting point for your project. Basically this means that you have access to an unlimited number of free templates!

Some tips for using BlueGriffon:

1. When you first open it, the interface will look terrible. Don't get discouraged. Do this:
BlueGriffon menu --> Preferences --> General tab --> Theme -> enable "Light"
The interface will now look world's better!

2. The sidebar in the program isn't active by default. In the Panels menu choose Style Properties, and you should instantly get a sense of the value of the sidebar.


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Re: Modern HTML editor for Sierra

Franconi Enrico
+1

On 30 Mar 2017, at 12:56, Randy B. Singer <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a favorite recommendation.  

It's free (some extended features are only available if you pay for them, but none of them are terribly important), WYSIWYG (but there is a built-in text editor if you choose to work with the raw HTML, and it helps you by allowing you to add HTML commands with one click), easy to use (if you know how to use a word processor you will take to this program quickly), and full featured. It's great for beginners and experienced Web designers alike.

BlueGriffon (free)
http://bluegriffon.org/
It was just recently updated extensively.




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Re: Modern HTML editor for Sierra

David Wignall
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Doug Hogg <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Pagespinner has issues with HTML 5.

My issue with Pagespinner is that the text editor doesn’t do Unicode so all accented characters have to be entered as entities e.g. &#257;. It’s 2017, and I’m over that. Anyway, a search for a Mac equivalent to Notepad++ lead me to CotEditor <https://coteditor.com>, which does me quite nicely.

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