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Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Mitch.Barker
Are there any published stats on how many people use the headphone jack?
And of those people, how may don't use the ear buds that came with the phone?

And for those who do use 3rd party headphones, why is the lightening to audio jack adapter not a good solution. Just attach the adapter to the end of your headphone cord and your' no different than you are today?

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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Shawn King

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 6:58 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
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> Are there any published stats on how many people use the headphone jack?

Not that I’m aware of yet but Ben Bajarin of Tech.pinions tweeted: "I’m running a quick poll on our panel on headphones.. Shockingly high % of people just use the headphones in the box…” <https://twitter.com/BenBajarin/status/774993556314263553>

> And for those who do use 3rd party headphones, why is the lightening to audio jack adapter not a good solution.

First thing that comes to mind is you can’t charge the iPhone and listen to the headphones at the same time.

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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

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On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:58 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Are there any published stats on how many people use the headphone jack?

There’s a survey company that did an overnight poll of 1000 Americans and included two questions for us.

We asked:

“Will the lack of a headphone jack affect your buying decision? If not, will it require you to change your habits with the new iPhone?”

26% of respondents said the lack of the headphone jack would affect their buying decision, but 74% said no, it wouldn’t.

44% of respondents said the lack of a headphone jack would require them to change their habits, but 56 percent said no, it wouldn’t.

That said, the lack of the headphone jack was among the least favorite features of the iPhone 7, joined, oddly, by the new Home button and iOS 10 in general.

The top three favorite features were the battery life, the water and dust resistance, and the 12 megapixel camera.

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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Robert Buice-2
For me the change will be similar to the Mac Pro. I had a nice box with four hard drives and two optical drives sitting under my desk. Now I have a cylinder with a lot of wires running everywhere and it is a big complicate mess.  The iPhone seven will be the same way.  I will go from a nice compact device that I carried around with headphones to a device with two dongles and a pair of headphones. I don't understand how apple keeps going from simple and neat to messy and complicated.  My wife, however doesn't care about sound quality and uses wireless headphones. She will notice no difference except when she wants to plug it into a car aux jack, which all of our cars have.  Then she will need he dual charge dongle and the headphone adapter dongle. Probably have to by multiple sets of those dongles and keep one set in each car as I hate to carry stuff around. The change seems like a big step backward for general usability. 

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On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:58 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Are there any published stats on how many people use the headphone jack?

There’s a survey company that did an overnight poll of 1000 Americans and included two questions for us.

We asked:

“Will the lack of a headphone jack affect your buying decision? If not, will it require you to change your habits with the new iPhone?”

26% of respondents said the lack of the headphone jack would affect their buying decision, but 74% said no, it wouldn’t.

44% of respondents said the lack of a headphone jack would require them to change their habits, but 56 percent said no, it wouldn’t.

That said, the lack of the headphone jack was among the least favorite features of the iPhone 7, joined, oddly, by the new Home button and iOS 10 in general.

The top three favorite features were the battery life, the water and dust resistance, and the 12 megapixel camera.

cheers... -Adam


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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Michael Gillman
Dongles get lost, that's one reason people don't like the change. Also people don't like change.

Mike

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Robert Buice <[hidden email]> wrote:
For me the change will be similar to the Mac Pro. I had a nice box with four hard drives and two optical drives sitting under my desk. Now I have a cylinder with a lot of wires running everywhere and it is a big complicate mess.  The iPhone seven will be the same way.  I will go from a nice compact device that I carried around with headphones to a device with two dongles and a pair of headphones. I don't understand how apple keeps going from simple and neat to messy and complicated.  My wife, however doesn't care about sound quality and uses wireless headphones. She will notice no difference except when she wants to plug it into a car aux jack, which all of our cars have.  Then she will need he dual charge dongle and the headphone adapter dongle. Probably have to by multiple sets of those dongles and keep one set in each car as I hate to carry stuff around. The change seems like a big step backward for general usability. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Adam Engst <[hidden email]> wrote:


On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:58 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Are there any published stats on how many people use the headphone jack?

There’s a survey company that did an overnight poll of 1000 Americans and included two questions for us.

We asked:

“Will the lack of a headphone jack affect your buying decision? If not, will it require you to change your habits with the new iPhone?”

26% of respondents said the lack of the headphone jack would affect their buying decision, but 74% said no, it wouldn’t.

44% of respondents said the lack of a headphone jack would require them to change their habits, but 56 percent said no, it wouldn’t.

That said, the lack of the headphone jack was among the least favorite features of the iPhone 7, joined, oddly, by the new Home button and iOS 10 in general.

The top three favorite features were the battery life, the water and dust resistance, and the 12 megapixel camera.

cheers... -Adam


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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Rodney

On Sep 12, 2016, at 17:46, Michael Gillman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dongles get lost, that's one reason people don't like the change. Also people don't like change.

How many different sets of headphones do people have? I suspect that most people have one; the earbuds that came with the phone.  Maybe the more serious audiophile bought an extra set, or someone bought a noise cancelling set for travel.  In that case, just leave the dongle attached.  A bit of tape can make the connection semi-permanent.



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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Marilyn Matty
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 9:58 AM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:

Are there any published stats on how many people use the headphone jack?

A good question, but it's too broad a focus to give a good reading on what's happening in the mobile market now among likely buyers and how it could affect sales in the immediate future. For the near term, Apple is probably focusing in particular areas. I stumbled across some interesting information about what's been happening in wireless headphone sales in the UK:

Despite the teething problems, retailers expect the market to boom as the technology improves. John Lewis said sales of wireless headphone were already 60% higher than last week after Apple’s announcement, while Currys PC World said its sales of wireless headphones were up 163% compared with last year.

Katrina Mills, an audio buyer at John Lewis, said: “Wednesday’s announcement will drive the biggest sales in wireless headphones yet. Ahead of the news, we had already seen an increased demand for wireless headphones, with noise cancelling functionality and sport models proving popular.”

Sales of Bose headphones were up 260% on the same period last year, John Lewis said. Other popular brands included Sony, Sennheiser, Bang & Olufsen and Beats, which is owned by Apple.

Wireless headphones account for three in five of the headphone sales at John Lewis, compared to one in five last year. Currys PC World said wireless headphones were by far the fastest growing type of headphone.

Rob O’Murphy, assistant category manager for headphones at Currys PC World, said: “We’ve noticed wireless headphones have been becoming more and more popular over the last year, especially with our customers in Dixons Travel, but following last night’s announcements we are expecting a particular spike in sales and will be looking to fill demand accordingly.”

City analysts said wireless headphones could eventually be a lucrative market for electrical retailers such as Dixons Carphone, which owns Currys PC World and Carphone Warehouse.

George Salmon, equity analyst at stockbroker Hargreaves Lansdown, said: “The group [Dixons Carphone] will be rubbing its hands together after the launch of the iPhone 7, and the introduction of wireless headphones opens up a whole new market.”




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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Marc Zeedar-2

On Sep 12, 2016, at 9:58 AM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Are there any published stats on how many people use the headphone jack?


No idea, but what does it matter? I bet tons of people still used floppies when Apple decided they were end-of-life. The same for serial ports, ADB, SCSI, and many other standards. The question isn't do people *use* the headphone jack, but is there a better solution? The Lightning port is already on the phone for charging and other uses -- why not simplify and eliminate the superfluous headphone jack?

Sure, there's some minor conversion pain now, but it'll be forgotten in year. Apple has done the right thing by including an adapter with the phone and Lightning wired earbuds.

For me, though I'm sure I'm not a standard user, the only thing I've used the iPhone's headphone jack for in the last several years is my Square credit card reader -- and since it reportedly works fine with the adapter, I'm golden.


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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Marilyn Matty
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 17:46, Michael Gillman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dongles get lost, that's one reason people don't like the change. Also people don't like change.

How many different sets of headphones do people have? I suspect that most people have one; the earbuds that came with the phone.  

I'm one of those people, and I'm one of over one billion iPhone owners. Add in potential iPhone owners, and it's potentially an incredibly lucrative market for Beats and other headphone makers. I'll bet other manufacturers are already shipping for the holiday season, and probably many models costing less than Beats or Bose will be in stock soon.

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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Levanah Tenen
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Adam Engst <[hidden email]> wrote:

> That said, the lack of the headphone jack was among the least favorite
> features of the iPhone 7, joined, oddly, by the new Home button and iOS 10
> in general.

New non-tactile Home button being among the least favorite features: not so odd to me. Turning on my iPhone in the dark is easy: my fingers hunt for the *round* home button depression. An artificial click when the new button is pressed is all fine—but you have to find it first! <sigh>





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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

John Burt
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Rodney <[hidden email]> wrote:

How many different sets of headphones do people have? 

Fun question. I just tossed out about 1/2 dozen that came with old portable cassette and CD players not to mention better ones I've purchased.

Three are in use on a daily basis, none came with the iPhones. Two or three more that came with iPhones are in position at various computers in case I want decent sound. Many more are hanging on a rack.

I'm going to buy a pair of these are recommended by someone else in this thread. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/1LQ3VUUY2LGCR/ref=cm_wl_list_o_3?

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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Rodney
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 20:35, Marilyn Matty <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'm one of those people, and I'm one of over one billion iPhone owners. Add in potential iPhone owners, and it's potentially an incredibly lucrative market for Beats and other headphone makers. I'll bet other manufacturers are already shipping for the holiday season, and probably many models costing less than Beats or Bose will be in stock soon.

I agree, but the point I was trying to make is that, for most people (probably including me), the wired earbuds in the box will be good enough.  They’ll not worry about whether they plug them into a headphone jack or the lightning port.  The missing jack is just an enthusiast’s problem which (IMHO) is blown out of proportion by tech journalists who are enthusiasts.



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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Travis Butler
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> On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:05 PM, Levanah Tenen <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Adam Engst <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> That said, the lack of the headphone jack was among the least favorite
>> features of the iPhone 7, joined, oddly, by the new Home button and iOS 10
>> in general.
>
> New non-tactile Home button being among the least favorite features: not so odd to me. Turning on my iPhone in the dark is easy: my fingers hunt for the *round* home button depression. An artificial click when the new button is pressed is all fine—but you have to find it first! <sigh>

Er… the depression is still there in the pictures. It’s just backed by a pressure-sensitive solid-state button instead of a physical button.

If it works as well as the click simulation on the Force Touch trackpads, I don’t expect to have any trouble with it. And the waterproofing help is nice, the removal of a physical switch that’s caused problems in the past is nice, and the new potential behaviors they’ve described could be interesting.





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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Rodney
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 21:11, SciFiOneA . <[hidden email]> wrote:

Fun question. I just tossed out about 1/2 dozen that came with old portable cassette and CD players not to mention better ones I've purchased.

Three are in use on a daily basis, none came with the iPhones. Two or three more that came with iPhones are in position at various computers in case I want decent sound. Many more are hanging on a rack.

Yes, I also have a half dozen or so, including a couple of pairs of fairly expensive “audiophile” phones (one pair is close to 30 years old).  I’m also considering some Bluetooth noise cancelling phones, but I’ll wait for a while to see what’s new.  However, I doubt that either of us is the typical iPhone user, and our purchasing habits can be filed under “anecdotal evidence”.

I suspect that, to the “typical user” (whatever that is), the missing jack won’t matter.  What I do worry about is that, because of all the scorn being heaped on Apple for their decision, Apple will face the fate that supposedly befell Microsoft several years ago.  Back then, someone said that Microsoft just wasn’t cool anymore.  I worry that people will choose to buy somebody else’s phone because the iPhone isn’t cool anymore rather than due to some limitation of the product.

It seems strange to me that there have been a lot of jokes made about Apple’s missing phone jack, but I’ve not heard anything about Samsung’s “hot” new phone...😞



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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

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> On Sep 12, 2016, at 21:25, Travis Butler <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> If it works as well as the click simulation on the Force Touch trackpads, I don’t expect to have any trouble with it.

Same here.  I really like the second generation Magic TrackPad.  If the new home button works as well, I’ll be happy.


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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Michael Gillman
And here is just some of what is being said online:

"The reason Apple is doing this is eliminate the analog hole and control 100% the digital data stream to output (speakers/headphones). That way they can control the content as they wish.

After the protests, the "free" adpater, it will quietly go away in the next version, and digital interface for the sound output will be the only way. Then they will have the consumer by the short and curlies....."

"New expensive phone with new expensive "AirPods" that can fall out of my ears on the subway... That's brave Apple! (?) WTF?"

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Rodney <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 21:25, Travis Butler <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> If it works as well as the click simulation on the Force Touch trackpads, I don’t expect to have any trouble with it.

Same here.  I really like the second generation Magic TrackPad.  If the new home button works as well, I’ll be happy.


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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Travis Butler

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Michael Gillman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> And here is just some of what is being said online:
>
> "The reason Apple is doing this is eliminate the analog hole and control 100% the digital data stream to output (speakers/headphones). That way they can control the content as they wish.
>
> After the protests, the "free" adpater, it will quietly go away in the next version, and digital interface for the sound output will be the only way. Then they will have the consumer by the short and curlies....."

And how many times have these conspiracy theories been trotted out in the wake of an Apple decision, only to be proven wrong and then quietly ignored? "Apple is killing Flash to promote iTMS sales" is a classic for me. The bit about locking out third-party accessories has been put forward twice - once with the switch from Firewire to the 30-pin Dock connector, another with the switch to the Lightning connector - and yet the third-party accessory market still seems pretty crowded to me…

Unlike the boy who cried wolf, repetition doesn’t seem to hurt this grade of rumor. :(





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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Richard Rettke
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On 12 Sep 2016, at 14:33, Rodney [hidden email] wrote:

I suspect that, to the “typical user” (whatever that is), the missing jack won’t matter.  What I do worry about is that, because of all the scorn being heaped on Apple for their decision, Apple will face the fate that supposedly befell Microsoft several years ago.  Back then, someone said that Microsoft just wasn’t cool anymore.  I worry that people will choose to buy somebody else’s phone because the iPhone isn’t cool anymore rather than due to some limitation of the product.

I think this is all Much Ado About Nothing. So long as there is a way to get the audio out. I was much more affected by the removal of the audio jack from the iMac.

I know some have expressed concern about having to have 'dongles' to be able to plug their phone into their car. I just ordered an "Antec AMP Smart Bean Portable Bluetooth Receiver Audio Adapter which Upgrades Headphones & Car Stereos to Bluetooth" specifically to allow my phone to play through the car stereo wirelessly, and I can still charge the phone if needed.

People are in general resistant to change because it is usually foisted on them from an outside source. My philosophy is, build a bridge and get over it, it's inevitable, like death and taxes.

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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Marilyn Matty
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> On Sep 12, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Travis Butler <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Michael Gillman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> And here is just some of what is being said online:
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>> "The reason Apple is doing this is eliminate the analog hole and control 100% the digital data stream to output (speakers/headphones). That way they can control the content as they wish.
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>> After the protests, the "free" adpater, it will quietly go away in the next version, and digital interface for the sound output will be the only way. Then they will have the consumer by the short and curlies....."
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> And how many times have these conspiracy theories been trotted out in the wake of an Apple decision, only to be proven wrong and then quietly ignored? "Apple is killing Flash to promote iTMS sales" is a classic for me. The bit about locking out third-party accessories has been put forward twice - once with the switch from Firewire to the 30-pin Dock connector, another with the switch to the Lightning connector - and yet the third-party accessory market still seems pretty crowded to me…
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> Unlike the boy who cried wolf, repetition doesn’t seem to hurt this grade of rumor. :(
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Re: Why Apple Removed the iPhone Headphone Jack

Lynne Adema-2
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Yes, but if the home button is where it always was, which is at bottom
center, then all you need to do is find the place where you would plug
in the lightning connector and go above that on your screen. I think
it's supposed to vibrate so I don't think it's going to be that hard.


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>> That said, the lack of the headphone jack was among the least favorite
>> features of the iPhone 7, joined, oddly, by the new Home button and iOS 10
>> in general.
> New non-tactile Home button being among the least favorite features: not so odd to me. Turning on my iPhone in the dark is easy: my fingers hunt for the *round* home button depression. An artificial click when the new button is pressed is all fine—but you have to find it first! <sigh>
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